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Melody: you have a very nice blog here...i love some of the cute little images you have in your posts...come by and visit sometime
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Linda: Hello Alice, I came by to see how your'e doing. Hope your'e over your cold. This time a year is an awful time to get sick..Went to your journal at mindstay but could'nt leave a message so I came back over here. Know you will be in my thoughts and prayers...Take care and God Bless you and your family.
Grandpa Chuck: Don't Forget Grandparents Day!
Leticia: You have two separate sites? I clicked on your name and it is a different color. Hmmm....
Marijke: Hi Alice, got the password from your livejournal entry! Hope all is well....love the photo of you and rich! :) How is it going with the victims of katrina?
Linda: Good Morning Alice...Thanks so much for stopping by...was very glad to hear from you...Enjoy the weekend..Take care and God Bless..
Donna: Received your e-mail, thanks. And remember, unlike others, I can handle constructive criticism and I take those words to heart. *grin*
Princess Jami: It looks like you guys are having such a great time. I want to go to the beach, too!! :-)
Alice: Never fear, I have figured out this dial up and I am here!
Donna: *sniff* I miss you...
Grandpa Chuck: Alice, The beach is the place to be! Wishing you and the family a great time.
Kathy: Alice, where are you? Is this your week at the beach? Whatever you are doing I hope it's fun. :)
Donna: I'm heading to the zoo tomorrow with a friend but I will be back in time to talk to you! Looking forward to hearing the details about your fun night.
Kathy: Hey Alice. Hey Grandpa Chuck, you must be getting that same cold front we have in NY. It got down to 49 last night!
Grandpa Chuck: Alice, The hot and humid weather is gone here in Michigan. Time to get back on the computer and visit my friends.
Donna: Alice, I've been out and about all day. BLECH. I also spent an interesting time with my friend Paula. Please read and give me feedback. It's crazy, lol.
Kathy: Hi Alice. I wanted to chat for a bit tonight, but I'm tired. Did a lot of walking today. When are you going to write a new post? :) Hope you've had a nice weekend.
Kathy: Thanks Donna. :) Hey, we are supposed to be heading to Alex Bay tomorrow to check it out. I think of you everytime I hear something about it.
Donna: Kathy, I'm just thrilled to see you posting again!
Kathy: Yeah, I'm wondering about an update myself.
Donna: ...Going through Alice withdrawal, even with the hour long chat last night.
Kathy: If I read this page from Dale's computer your fancy script above is plain, but bold text. Strange.
Donna: Alice, Becky and I went to lunch and then shopping today. And strangely enough, I missed YOU! :-)
Kathy: Goodnight Alice. :) I'd love to chat for a bit, but I have to be awake in 8 hrs, and that's just not enough for me.
Amy Proctor: Just stopping by to say hello.
Princess Jami: Hi, Alice! /waves
Kathy: I LOVE your opinions woman! :)
Amy P: Me, too, alice. I didn't even realize it was your public journal until I posted my reply and it didn't show up!
Donna: I commented over at your public Journal. I hope they went through.Thanks for the fun chat last night!
Amy Proctor: Alice, stopping by to say Hi! What are you guys doing this weekend???
Amy Proctor: Glad you're back, Alice!
Amy Proctor: Hello???
Amy Proctor: Alice, glad your family is getting back to normal.
Alice: Hey Kathy! Everyone is doing a lot better, thanks. How are you?
Kathy: Hey Alice. How is everyone feeling now?
Amy P: Alice, I hope you're having a good weekend. Does Rich have the weekends off? Today's my 17th wedding anniversary!
Alice: Amy P, just pray for my friend. She must be very unhappy.
Amy P: I'm sorry you're going through this terrible situation. Can I do anything?
Alice: Yeah, I am here. I am up and running at about 70%.
Amy Proctor: Hello??
Amy P: Are you better yet???
Amy P: Where have you been, Alice??
Amy P: Alice, I hope you're having a great weekend.
Grandpa Chuck: Alice, I'm ready for the weekend and the weather is forcasted to be warm and sunny! Here's wishing for a wonderful weekend for you and yours too!
Grandpa Chuck: Alice, Here is wishing you and yours a great Memorial Day weekend!
Amy Proctor: Twice! Sorry..
Amy Proctor: Stopping in to say hello!

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Sunday, September 4th 2005

1:50 PM

Speechless...well, not exactly

  • Feeling: disgusted
  • Background Noise: kids playing
Note: Ms. Gia has now taken down her nasty post because she "doesn't have time to interact."  She is now throwing around a couple of maps, etc.  She doesn't know I have copied this piece of garbage here and, below, you will see a complete list of comments that followed....

I am sick and tired of hateful people.  Gia has written this piece of garbage over on her website.  For those of you who do not want to soil your computer by going to her site, you can read it here:

New Orleans

I haven't had the time to write here about the hurricane... and to be honest I haven't had the time to think about it much. I've seen and heard snatches of information, glimpses of pictures... I'm more filled with questions rather than comment.

Will this make people realise that everyone needs to be looked after all the time rather than just after a terrible storm? Will the people who need to rethink the way they interact with the world the most actually be moved to change their ways in the future? Will the government do enough to help those people or, as I suspect, will they do 'just enough'? Will any more ever be spent on education down there? Will people who think that our army invading a country is the right thing to do see any parallels with the hurricane- that is, something destroys their home environment and all Hell breaks loose? Will the Republicans go ahead with their tax cuts for the rich and cuts in health care and benefits for the poor as they are planning to do next week? Will this ever actually get sorted out? Who's going to pay for it - the wealthy Americans or the oh-so-altruistic-corporations (which is what the Republicans say will happen when they get rid of Social Security)? Ha!

I don't like The South. Never been a fan of it. As a Northerner I've never got the wilfully ignorant, beer, truck, shotgun, nigger-hatin' redneck thing. I've never got the Jesus, God, Bush, Reagan, 500 Club, prim, proper, nigger-hatin' moral majority thing. I've never got the rich, tanned, never less than two syllables, smiley, charming, nigger-hatin' slave-owning family thing. Maybe I'm just judgemental and bigoted, but The South has just never appealed to me for some reason...

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that God was making a very big point. He's been sitting there letting his Kids do their own thing, hoping that They learn from Their own mistakes. But They haven't. He's had enough of Them screwing up and then every night They swamp Him with appeals for help. He's fuckin' tired of it.

So He forces the situation.

He's a clever guy so it doesn't take Him long to figure it out: He combines the best of their mistakes to throw back at Them. They haven't been taking care of the home He's provided, so He creates a storm created because of Global Warming. They haven't been taking care of the poor, so He aims it at the poorest people to force Them to see just how bad it really is. They've been treating Their siblings appallingly for, well, millenia, just because of their skin colour, so He makes sure that every suffering face They see is darker than their own. He's tried and tried and fucking tried to get them to learn their lesson by doing this stuff in Africa and Asia, but They've not really bothered with all that, so He put it right on their doorstep. They've been sending their toughest off to fight with other Kids, so He made sure that the whole situation quickly descended into chaos when there was no one there to control it. And just for a joke He wrecked the oil refineries.

And in one act They've reaped what They've sown.

I am shocked by how idiotic and heartless Bush has been... but not surprised.

Donate.
 
Here are all of the comments that followed.  You can see them for yourselves (as long as she doesn't delete it)

I generally try not to comment in others' blogs if I don't have anything nice to say, but today I am making an exception. First of all, I thought you didn't believe in God? So this whole scenario that you just made up about God is just a fairy tale to you because you do not believe in Him, remember?

Next, I will agree with you on one point you made, you ARE a bigot. You hate the South huh? You think everyone in the South sits around and drinks beer and has a pick up truck and hates black people (I refuse to even repeat the word you used to describe them, I was taught better than that)? So we in the South deserve all of this because we are so very awful and stupid?

No, YOU are stupid. You are so busy hating others that you don't even know what you are talking about. But I have to hand it to you, Gia, at least you are honest about your hatred for others and don't hold back! You, sitting in another country playing armchair politician with all the answers...you think you can just hyperlink the word "Donate" to the Red Cross and that makes it all better? You think that you are doing your part? You would rather sit in your other country and complain rather than try and do something.

But you don't want to do anything, do you, Gia? Because you HATE the Southerners and you are GLAD that this has happened. You want to stir the crap by attempting to bring race into a natural disaster and criticize everyone on how fast they are helping and how much they are helping. But you? You are doing NOTHING...and worst of all? You don't WANT to do anything.

That is fine. We don't NEED your help. We don't need someone who doesn't even believe in God making up a bunch of fairy tales to explain why a natural disaster has occurred. We don't need you throwing around that nasty word that you have called black folks. You, apparently, were not taught any kind of manners or consideration for others...

I'm not going to waste any more of my time here reading your garbage. I read, often, to try to understand others' point of view, but you have just made me realize that I don't WANT to understand your point of view any longer. My time is better spent *doing something* to try and make this situation better. I will be busy today making packages to send off to those who need them. My husband has been at the airlift wing all weekend long helping to treat 1000 of those victims who need medical attention. Many of whom are black folks, who you have zero regard for and only use them to try and ridicule and insult Southerners. These black folks ARE Southerners. And you? You are the bigot you said you are...why don't YOU do something useful? If not, then stand back and let others. Don't waste people's time.


Hands down one of the most ignorant posts I have ever seen in my life. I am from the SOUTH. And your use of the N word is the most offendsive. You are the racist.


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/181204/youcunt.jpg


Damn Alice, you proved it, Americans don't understand irony. I guess I am officially no longer American then...

Why is it that Southerners always use the phrase 'Black Folks'- they *always* say 'Black Folks'... aren't they even 'People'? Alice, don't tell me how I think about people of different races. You have no idea of who I may be related to, who my friends are, who my neighbours are, where I live.

Next time, Alice, if you really want to help these people (or 'folks'), then vote for a government that will support them in their every day lives- pay for proper education of their kids, retrain the adults so they can work, give them healthcare- so that should disaster strike again they aren't so desperately poor that they can't do anything other than sit there and take it and wait for some housewife to send them a 'package' so that *she* feels like she's doing something nice to assuage her guilt for supporting a regime who has done nothing other than screw these people over time and time again.

I've spent the past 6 years fighting against the guy you and your friends seem to worship because I believe to the depths of my soul that every human being has basic rights- food, shelter, healthcare, education and the right to live their lives free from persecution and violence. I have campaigned, argued, protested, written to my governments, donated my time and money...

I have argued with you Bush-lovers over and over again and have just been called a 'cry baby', a 'leech', a 'Commie' and even my *mother* was picked on specifically because she thinks that America should be looking after its own poor in the innercities before trying to sort out other countries. This year I've even gone to fucking Downing Street because of something I spent huge amounts of time doing for people who need help.

And you're sending a package.

Good for you, Alice. I hope it makes you feel better. Next week *your* Representatives will be pushing for more tax cuts for the wealthy and will, once again, be doing absolutely jack-all to help the 45 million Americans who lack health insurance.


Anonymous, you coward.

I can't tell whether the second Anonymous's photo comment was directed to me or not... One has an 'issue' with the 'N word', as you call it, but can dish out the 'C word' (as I don't call it) willy-nilly. How interesting...


My only reply has been the picture, calling you, deservedly, a cunt. I have no problem with that word. I use it for all cunts, and am not afraid to use it when necessary.


You're just as judgemental and biggoted as those of the ilk of David Duke. You're doing just as much stereotyping as I'd expect out of a Klan Member. You're a regional supremacist and just as bad as the white supremacists.

And is it really necessary to use the n-word to get your point across? Many of us, even in the South, find it extremely appalling and offensive. Many of us young people in the South had nothing to do with the horrid history of slavery and segregation, and wish to move on and learn from the mistakes of those from the past, NOT dwell on them.


"My only reply has been the picture, calling you, deservedly, a cunt. I have no problem with that word. I use it for all cunts, and am not afraid to use it when necessary."

Wow.

I have never called another human being a 'nigger'. You, IP#68.102.31.56 from Wichita, Kansas, however, are using a word that, when used by an American especially, offends half of the planet.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the word 'Cunt', but I never use it as a term of abuse.

You, I'm afraid, are the offensive one.


"Many of us young people in the South had nothing to do with the horrid history of slavery and segregation, and wish to move on and learn from the mistakes of those from the past, NOT dwell on them."

Yep. Don't dwell on it. Sweep it under the carpet. If you just ignore the institutionalised racism that exists in the South specifically and in America generally then it'll just go away, right?


We call americans of african descent "black folks" for the same reason we call those of european descent "white folks." Why do you insist on calling them "people?" We prefer the friendlier term "folks" because we believe that's the right way. In other words, "folks" is southern for "people." You may have known that if you spent more time learning about those you hate instead of seething with rage.

Few things as bad, in my eyes, as a dixiephobe. But, I guess some folks just need to feel superior in order to get on in the world.


You're right. Cunt is too good of a word for you.


WHO do you think is helping the victims of the storm? SOUTHERN PEOPLE. Pro-Bush and Anti-Bush have nothing to do with it. Hating racism is fine by me. I hate racism. Hating someone because they are from the south, and your brain can NOT stop sterotypeing southern people, is just another form of racism.


Uh. Are you still here?

"Few things as bad, in my eyes, as a dixiephobe...."

I hope you think that people who do everything they can to NOT help people who need it and actively work to take what little they have away from them are worse than "Dixiephobes". If so, we can meet on some middle ground.

For the record, I'm not a 'Dixiephobe'. I am, however, a 'KKKphobe' , a 'NeoNaziphobe', a 'White Supremesistphobe', a 'Fundamental Religious-typephobe', a 'Woman-Haterphobe', a 'Gun Worshipperphobe', a 'Bush Worshipperphobe', an 'I Love My Truck More Than My Womanphobe', a 'More Guns Than Teethphobe', a 'Confederate Flagphobe', but most importantly I'm a 'Wilfully Ignorantphobe'. Unfortunately, in my experience, there are just too many triggers for my phobias in the Southern parts of America. Clearly the whole place isn't full of them, but there are far more than enough to start my heart beating wildly, so I just don't like it there.

I hope that explains the subtle use of irony in my post. If not I'll spell it out for you- I DON'T LIKE RACISTS AND IDIOTS and the only place I've ever been that has large numbers of both is the South. Actually, that's not quite correct. Everywhere has racists and idiots, it's just that there are far more people who are PROUD of being racist idiots in the South.

Unfortunately, many Southerners, like your good selves, believe that simply not using the word 'nigger' means they aren't racist. Racism exhibits itself in many more insidious ways than that. I mean, someone really has to be a fucking idiot to use that word as a term of abuse, but why exactly then are all the faces we are seeing on TV in New Orleans black? There is an extremely long string of answers to that question and once you start digging you will see that your admonishment of me for using the word (albeit ironically) is as childish and ridiculous as the characters in 'Harry Potter' being unable to say Voldemort's name. Your fear of it smacks of superstition. The word isn't all-powerful. The dark, evil underbelly of the world you live in is the problem. Southern culture is racist and simply not saying the word 'nigger' doesn't mean that everything is OK.


Please get some therapy. Your need to blame everyone for issues distubs me.

Your post does not shock me. I am disgusted, but not shocked. I see that, unlike the majority of southerners, you are race-oriented, religion-oriented, geographically oriented, and all the other current politically correct words that mean complete idiot. I hope that you always dislike the south and never decide to move here—we don’t want you.

I feel compassion for anyone who has undergone a natural disaster. I truly don’t understand how anyone could be so heartless as to blame an entire region for a hurricane. If you are not doing something to help the problem, them you, Gia, are the problem. Welcome to reality, it is your fault.


Blame an entire region for a hurricane? Nope. Not a hurricane. That's the *weather*, silly.

No, I blame the region for their continued wilful ignorance of the reality of poverty. I blame the region for the racism that so clearly exists there. I blame the region for not investing heavily in education... ever. I blame the region for voting for Bush, twice, when he's done *nothing* to help anyone down there, except the oil men.

You have to admit from everything that you have seen over the past several days, there is a really big problem which goes back longer than the hurricane. And if you don't want to admit that, then you are blinded by regional pride.

(I'm off to bed now. Argue amongst yourselves)


"And you're sending a package.

Good for you, Alice. I hope it makes you feel better."

You, apparently, can't read. My husband has been providing medical treatment for over 1000 of these victims brought into our state over the past weekend. What the hell have you done, besides make yourself look really bad?

LOL you have NOTHING to say back to me of any worth or value so you are going to attempt to make me into a racist by critiquing my use of the term "black folks?" ROFLMAO...yeah, you are more ignorant of the South than I had originally thought! We call EVERYBODY "folks" down here. Black folks, white folks, rich folks, poor folks, it doesn't matter...they are all folks. What a laugh...

All you are doing is spinning around like a freak trying to back peddle and attempt to draw attention away from the fact that you are a hate-filled bigot. Why do you only see dark faces on TV in New Orleans? Have you BEEN to New Orleans? OMG you really don't get it. First of all, try not to believe everything you see on TV. What I mean by that is, try to imagine that there is more beyond what the TV camera captures. You only see what the MSM wants you to see. In addition, it's simple math...there is a much larger population of black folks than white folks (OMG did I say "folks" again? I did? Oh well! ) OK OK...I'll indulge you: My husband has seen white people, black people, hispanic people, and filipino people while treating their illnesses and injuries. They were not angry, accusatory, blaming or anything like the MSM has portrayed them. They are nice people who need help and we are HELPING them. Unlike you.

You have really shown who you really are in this post. Shame on you, Gia. We have never seen eye to eye on most subjects, but I didn't hate you. I have no respect for you any longer. You are a sick woman.


new orleans was destroyed because there are too many people driving SUVs and raping the planet so they could have suburban homes with central AC and swimming pools.

americans, europeans, asians...white, black, red, brown, yellow (although i hate this color designation for asians...because we are NOT yellow - it comes from americans calling the first chinese immigrants "yellow" meaning cowards...and yes they did act like cowards because they were all lowly peasants, but we are not that any more so calling asians yellow is like calling a black person "nigger")...all people from all over the planet are responsible.

God had nothing to do with it.

and of course, most republicans and bush lovers don't believe in global warming (which is backed by tons of scientific data - but they will believe in God, which has zero evidence to support it)

i think gia's point was that and nothing more.


oh one more thing...

i've been to new orleans...rich white people live in suburban million dollar homes while poor blacks exist in slums riddled with murder, rape, and other sorts of nasty crime...

...and of course rich frat boys and girls from all over the U.S. come to get drunk and be on "Girls Gone Wild."

sure it's a great place to party...great place to live if you are rich and white. otherwise, if you are poor, uneducated, and black (or any other minority race), it's not such a great place to live.

and why is the situation so fucked up? because everyone saw the storm coming...including the bush administration...and did NOTHING to help. Why were the National Guard not called in to help evacuate the city? WHY THE FUCK WAS BUSH ON VACATION? hey, you the South...yes, you red states...you have to blame yourself on this one...because you voted the guy in...and he did NOTHING to help your situation.


Gosh. I've lived in the south all of my life. Was born and raised in small-town Tennessee. My parents were from practicaly-non-existant-on-any-map-town Virginia (back in the "Hills" and "Hollers" of southwest Virginia). We're not like that, at all.

Bloody hell, we need to take classes on how to be a true southerner. Anyone have information as to an institution that teaches such classes?


Gia,

Truly amazing. Someone with the potential to be so amazingly insightful and yet something as simple as your comments spew forth. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about in your altruistic sheltered environment. I would love to be this naive again. Here is the facts: These People (black folks, white folks, dumb folks, smart folks, forigners, and everyone else) are in deep peril. I don't care who is at fault, whether they believe in God or what their economic status and/or political beliefs are, the fact of the matter remains that all of these individuals are hurting. They hurt for everything. Food, money, churches, water, clothes, bathing facilities, and most importantly, compassionate people. There are people in this world who blame everything on someone else. I guess that is the easy thing to do. This was not an act of terrorism. It was not an act of a republican or democrat. Democrats are suffering too. What is truly characteristic of Americans is that we will band together when needed to help those in need. I personally could care less what or who you are, only do you need help. Believe it or not, most of the New Orleans population is black. If you knew your history, most of the United States African- American population voted for democrat candidate John Carey. My point is, that this was a NATURAL DISASTER. They need help. I have seen, talked, and taked care of those struggling with this disaster. They hurt. They are sick. They are human beings. They feel pain and emotions. For you to devalue human life with your opinions is insignificant right now. Here is the kicker to all of this. Maybe this is the difference between me and you. If you, as a self pretentious northerner, needed help tommorow, I would be there for you. This is in spite of the fact that you are a despicable human being. I would be there for you. The real question is would you be there for anyone else or would you just blindly and naively judge us instead?


wow...rescue worker...you need to wake up and smell the coffee...

all of the suffering in N.O. is because of selfish behavior by the so-called christian republicans who ignored the warnings of scientists...ignored the warnings of "liberal media"...and still ignore the warnings of worse things to come.

sure you can go down to N.O. and save few thousand people...for what? so they cann all die with millions more in a few more years?

you are putting a bandage on a diseased body dying of cancer. N.O. is/will be nothing compared to the "natural" disasters yet to come.

i say "natural" because there is nothing "natural" about the storm the destroyed N.O. scientists have warned the world about things like this for years. and what does Bush and his administration do? nothing. they say they believe in God yet deny the existance of scientific fact. they allow the automotive industry to make cars that get 9 miles per gallon and actually give pollution credits so their friends can make more money. no...there is nothing "natural" about this disaster. republicans and greedy american energy companies and suburban soccer-moms driving big-ass SUVs with their overconsuming botox-ridden fat asses are the cause.

sure, send packages...send the spare changes you collect at work...go save few hundred people...if we don't change (and start by signing the Kyoto agreement), N.O. will see another storm...Florida will see anther storm...N.Y. will see anther storm...

and people like you will go on...bandaging up the pieces of a dying body...ignoring the fact that all of this could have been avoided if the right people were in charge...instead of greedy powerhungry warmongers who call themselves christians only to get votes. and those who vote them into positiosn of power are just as guilty for the destruction of our cities and the planet.

who is truly the naive one?


Kataly5t, hurricanes are a fact of nature thoughout history. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0128_050128_tv_hurricane.html
You are right, N.O. will see another storm, FL will see another storm, NY will see another storm...
Why? Because that's just the way it is, Kataly5t. There are many factors that might contribute to a hurricane, but I don't think that it's very sensible to blame them on a president or a person driving an SUV, LOL. Last time I checked, the dinosaurs didn't drive SUVs and neither did the Maya Indians. Nice try, though. I give you an A+ for creativity and a D- for showing respect for those who are trying to help others (like my husband, who posted earlier). One day you might find yourself in need of a rescue worker and we'll see how you talk to one then...
Who is truly the naive one? LOL, YOU.


Gia... dead giveaway that you do not have the good fortune to be a Southerner."folks" is an AFFECTIONATE word for family. People is a more generic term used for those that are casual acquaintances. We help out our own, if our neighbor is needing something, we are there. Millions of dollars has been donated from Southern states. the thugs and vandals (who really needs a big screen tv if you have no house for it? Get the education and a job and buy your own. Don't steal it or expect it to be handed to you.

Katalyst,

Mayor of NO is democrat. Bush declared NO/LA a disaster area 2 DAYS before Katrina hit. Nagin offered the superdome as an area of refuge. Problem is, that jackass forgot to make sure there were supplies. Just over a mile away were hundreds of schoolbuses that could have evacuated the people who had no transportation. Instead, he chose to sit on his ass in the Hyatt, after making sure that the TOURISTS who obviously had the money to vacation in NO could get out of town when anyone with a brain could tell it was a good idea to leave if it was possible.

And yeah, it was definitely Bush's fault that the hurricane occurred. The man has ULTIMATE power in the universe and thought that it was time that NO got theirs. yeah, right. NO has had the opportunity for decades to reinforce the emergency plan for their city. They waited til 2 days after the hurricane to ask for help. The federal government cannot just waltz in and take control. There's a little thing called "states' right" (remember civics?) and the feds must be ASKED to intervene in the country. NO released the prisoners in the pricons in town. Those are some of the jackasses shooting at the relief supplies. Kyoto is a piece of crap and meaningless. The earth periodically cools and heats up and has been doing so for thousands of years. All the hurricanes in the past few years. Check with NOAA, we are on a downswing and have been for over 50 years. should start an upswing in about the next 50 or so. Check to see which countries in the world are the worse polluters. I think you'll find that Mexico, Venuezuela, China among the WORST offenders. Oddly enough, the US doesn't even make the top 10.

Any reason why the people of NO can't take any personal responsibility and try to get the best education they can? Don't drop out of school. Bother to show up for classes now and then. See what you can do to help yourself instead of waiting for the government to do it. That's how I got my education. My parents couldn't afford to give me one, so I got my own. From them I got the encouragement to do what I wanted and go as far as I could. Husband and I have owned our own businesses for over 20 years. Small business. Hired men out of jail looking for another chance. Homeless guy looking for a way off the street. While they were working, I was on the phone trying to find additional help for them. Making suggestions on better presentation for themselves so they could go on to better jobs. And no, we paid more than minimum wage...we paid them $10/hr which in the 90s was decent money. That is what we paid all our workers and they seemed to do just fine. That's what I got paid when I worked for our business. $10/hr. Now, of course, we'd pay more, but our business is now a one man shop.

Let's see...are there any other facts that I can tell you and suggest that you check in to? Oh yeah, you're not going to bother to read this so I am probably wasting my time.

How about sending your angry letter to the mayor of NO and the gov of LA for not getting off their corrupt fat asses in time to get the people who made the mistake of voting them into office some help, instead of waiting for other states like Tx (which has taken in 200,000 refugees so far), Arkansas, PA, IA, FL...they've sent their national guard units and police to help out. Funny out well things were ironed out and quickly on the road once the feds did show up and see what needed to be done. Shame that the legendary corrupt politicians of LA didn't see fit to protect their own people. Once again, someone else has to bail them out. At least you should be happy that your tax dollars are goign somewhere you "approve" of.


Rescue Worker, why do you think I was writing about the people who are in grave need of help? I am writing about the people who for decades, centuries, have refused to give black people a chance, the people who have kept them in poverty, the people who think they should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get on with it because "That's what I did"...

"Any reason why the people of NO can't take any personal responsibility and try to get the best education they can? Don't drop out of school. Bother to show up for classes now and then. See what you can do to help yourself instead of waiting for the government to do it. "
*ahem* How I see it, when your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents etc have been owned, beaten, raped, called 'boy' when they are a man, forced to sit at the back of the bus, lynched, hunted and denied entry to shops, cinema, restaurants and schools, you don't come from a background which values education. You need a lot of help to break that cycle...

See, we 'liberals' think breaking those kinds of cycles are the single-most important thing to do for the future of our planet. Education is the best way out of poverty. I don't believe in just giving handouts, I believe in helping people help themselves... but they need that initial bit of help.

This hurricane is a horrible disaster, but what's worse, to me, is that the people worst hit have been living a life of hell for a long time before this. The worst and most wide-spread poverty and the least educated people in America are in the South... and the majority of them are black.

kataly5t is correct. What you good people are doing now to help is just a band-aid. There will be more hurricanes, more 'natural' disasters and unless something very drastic is done to change government policy on education, healthcare, pollution then you'll be right back there doing what you're doing now... and it will never end.

Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away.


For the record, I'm not a 'Dixiephobe'. I am, however, a 'KKKphobe' , a 'NeoNaziphobe', a 'White Supremesistphobe', a 'Fundamental Religious-typephobe', a 'Woman-Haterphobe', a 'Gun Worshipperphobe', a 'Bush Worshipperphobe', an 'I Love My Truck More Than My Womanphobe', a 'More Guns Than Teethphobe', a 'Confederate Flagphobe', but most importantly I'm a 'Wilfully Ignorantphobe'.

And, if you associate any of that (other than the Gun Worshipper and Confederate Flag) with the South, then you are just as prejudiced as your KKK and NeoNazis. For the records, we love our women every bit as much as our trucks.

The fact is, you've found your way to justify your own prejudices. You're no different than the old lady who clutched her purse close to her every time she walks by a black man. Congratuations, you're a biggot and a Dixiephobe.


Wow! Not a lot of love in this room.

Hey anonymous, why not use your real name when you're calling someone a cunt? You're either a coward, or someone that knows how naughty it is to call someone a cunt and doesn't want God finding out. Essentially you're a coward.

Alice: funny how someone who doesn't believe in God isn't allowed to come up with a bunch of fairy tales about natural disasters. Depending on your beliefs it's either a natural disaster or an act of God. What do you believe?


Southerners, why not go look at the Tolerance.org map of hate groups in the US... where are the majority of them?


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